Saturday, August 27, 2011

Comparing bananas and lemons - Part 3 : Speed

 
Yes I know, I seem to be plugging Enfield’s in the previous posts (and the ‘busa) but hey, you do the math and see for yourself!

Anyway, I found this “speed trap” formula, given weight and power, for estimating quarter mile times and speeds - It’s surprisingly accurate:
I used the Patrick Hale formulas and the numbers come to within a few percent of real world test reports that are found on the net.
Speeds in KM/h

Model
HP
Dry wt
Wt+75KG
RWHP
QM spd
QM time
Hero Honda CD100
7.5
110
185
6.225
94.24
24.73
Pulsar DTSI 220
21
148
223
17.43
124.46
18.68
Karizma ZMR
17.6
159
234
14.608
115.56
20.13
CBR 250
26.4
162
237
21.912
131.55
17.66
Honda CB750
67
218
293
55.61
166.79
13.89
Suzuki Hayabusa
190
242
317
157.7
229.23
10.08


Model
HP
Dry wt
Wt+75KG
RWHP
QM spd
QM time
Diesel bullet
7.5
185
260
5.625
81.46
28.66
Std 500
22
185
260
16
115.02
20.23
Std 350
18
180
255
12
105.27
22.12
Lightning 535
26
185
260
20
123.80
18.78
Enfield CL500
27.2
185
260
21.2
126.21
18.41
ACE Fireball
42
185
260
36
150.31
15.44
Constellation
51
190
265
45
160.78
14.42
Interceptor
56
190
265
50
166.47
13.92

Model
HP
Dry wt
Wt+75KG
RWHP
QM spd
QM time
BSA Goldstar
42
175
250
36
152.26
15.23
Velocette Venom
41
177
252
35
150.46
15.42
Triumph 650 twin
46
180
255
40
156.62
14.81
Norton 650SS
49
198
273
43
156.84
14.79
Vincent 1000
55
227
302
49
158.38
14.64

Model
HP
Dry wt
Wt+75KG
RWHP
QM spd
QM time
Jawa 250
12
135
210
9
102.07
22.82
Yezdi Roadking
16
135
210
13
115.24
20.19
Jawa 350
23
168
243
20
126.60
18.36
Yamaha RX100
11.5
103
178
8.5
105.78
22.01
Yamaha RX135
14
103
178
11
115.17
20.20
Suzuki Shogun
13.8
104
179
10.8
114.27
20.36
Yamaha RD350
30.5
143
218
26.5
143.98
16.12
Maico 760
43
115
190
34.4
164.21
14.12




Conclusions?

Most bikes will top out after ¼ mile, so common claims of top speeds are greatly exaggerated.

These formulas seem to bear out real world experience -from personal experience, I know that my L 535 tops out at around 125 kph, and Jawa 250 at 100 kph or so, and the figures for the RX100 and DTSI 220 also seem to be on the money. Some also agree with gearing and tire-circumference calculations as seen on www.gearingcommander.com


It is well likely that some of the more powerful bikes with continue to accelerate beyond the quarter mile mark, since they are not yet at peak power RPM, but most of the smaller bikes are maxed out here.
Claims of 144 km/h for the DTSI 220  as per the advertisements (as the worlds fastest Indian) and excess of 160 km/h for the CBR 250R are quite unbelievable.


One key point is that a bike has to be geared such that it hits the top speed at peak power RPM in top gear.Peak power RPM and peak RPM are two different things entirely. 

On the road, in top gear, no bike will cross its peak power RPM - it stands to reason - If the bike is geared to reach top speed after or before peak power, the engine it rotating too fast or too slow, and producing less power than it could. Neither is ideal.

Bikes like the Hayabusa may differ in this regard because they are often rev limited and under geared - Meaning if it were allowed, it could rev higher than the limit and produce more power.


Many manufacturers will slyly use redline RPMs, calculate top speed based on the gearing, and put that in the specifications. Speedometers are notoriously inaccurate, even digital ones. Civilian GPS units seem to have anecdotal evidence of gross inaccuracy. Radar guns are also suspect.

The only accurate way to measure top speed that I can think of, is to record a video while driving full tilt, between two milestones. Road milestones will probably be accurate to within a couple of meters, and the timer in handy cams is digital, and has no measurable timing error. 

So take that "How fast does your bike go?" thread on your motorcycle forum with a tablespoon or two of salt. Even a camera shot of a speedometer is not valid evidence.

Let's go on and look at efficiencies in the next part of this series

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